ClappingTree’s Web 2.0

Screw the scammers. They do not even worth a plug here.

Most IM started off as ‘guru’ or ‘master’ or something in selling online, etc. They have loads of websites to spam their message, newspapers too. Do it long enough pple will start to believe it. Lol…

Then they charge premium dollars for talks and ’silly’ bosses will sign up for them.

It would definitely be better to get a 14 years kid from US to do it for you, they are the best marketers if you asked me!

Uzyn, this is not a plug. I’m just stating the facts and asking quite pointed questions.

Paul, hahaha! I half-suspect that. Still, if that’s so, why hasn’t anyone come up to expose them yet?

Afternote: There is apparently an audience of over 5,000 at each summit. Some of the speakers said they give talks as many as 25 times a year. The “World Internet Summit” seminar has been (and still is) held in many places worldwide, sometimes more than once a year in the same place. Notice the spikes in the People Count of the sites shown above.

ClappingTrees,

didn’t know you were at WIMS. i was there too.

from the experience that i get from the summit, i would say, they are making more money offline than online..

i also made an estimate of half a million dollars per program like u did..

it was interesting to see how naive some people can be.. no wonder most of them are retirees or “senior executives” who know nothing about the internet.

nevertheless, it was a good experience to attend such an event, since i got a free ticket too.

thanks for the great post!

=)

How do you define success? If enough gullible people buy a product and make the business owner rich, is he successful or just another hustler?

With the convenience and powerful connection of the Internet, it sure is easy to reach many many innocent and gullible people on this planet.

Precisely!

Willing buyer, willing seller. It boils down to that. Of course it takes some skills to persuade people to buy and that’s where they come in. What is really good value and what is really crap is debatable. If the person buying feels that he has learnt a lot, the money paid is worth it. Of course and vice versa. So what point is there to expose? I think people are entitled to a refund if they’re not happy. At least if they bought it online, they can

That said, i know of a site where one can get those pricey internet marketing books, those written by GURUS for free hehe. Anyone interested?

I think the reason why they agreed to be speaker is because they can sell their products to you at the end of the talk. (plus maybe the pay is quite good)

Seriously, these people are trying to make themselves rich by telling you they want to make you rich.

If a drug lord says their business exist because of “willing buyer, willing seller”, does that make them right?

I think, if you can see, hear and touch a particular product, you are more probably to buy it than if you just look at it or read about it on the Internet. So, my idea is that Internet marketers make more money off the Internet.

I follow Jay Abraham and he is an advocate of building multiple pillars in a process called the partheneon.

Now the thing is that each pillar generates its own leads but also supports the sucess of the others so it becomes mopre difficult to separate the results.

You read about someone on line and the go and see them live – which made the sale?

I agree with Paul, Jay Abraham is deffinately a internet marketer that you can listen to what it says and not think that it’s the same things that every other guru is saying. I’m following the partheneon process with very good results so far.

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I purchased a$3000.00 program from Abraham. He preaches risk reversal but doesn’t practice it. He gave me 30 days to cancel out of a 13 month program that met online once a month. Now he is sending collections after me cause I dropped out after the 30 days. He is just all about making and keeping himself rich!

I will answer this based on my experience. I myself is internet marketer but Im not buying any gurus or blackhats that telling 5k$ a month using our methods. Any internet gurus will not tell their real secrets unless you are close friends? Because if they do so they will have many competition and probably their business will fall.

Most Gurus offer real content, the only draw drawback is that they overhype their content, but it is really possible to earn that kind of income over years of hard work and learning.

Real content is what’s required to draw visitors and traffic. Hard work is what will pay off in the long run.

i was at a brighton bootcamp and saw armand and tom hua earn over 2.5 million sterling in an hour each, very slick, what do any of the readers think of huas 227 website in a box biz

I am betting that they make more money online than their offline ventures. Had it been the contrary, then they would not have been where they are, and yet up to now, they remain marketing online.

a lot of them are scams.
need to be careful.

Well,
I actually have attended Ewen Chia 3 Day Workshop in Singapore on 2008.
He did show us his proof of income/clickbank/account upon our request.

And we cant simply belivie it’s fake right ? because he show us on the spot, so i think Ewen Chia is a real guru